tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3836420780693828723.post6164052851246637633..comments2019-06-07T16:34:32.023-07:00Comments on dublinstreams: Number 18 Moore Streetdublinstreamshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15670492570354241920noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3836420780693828723.post-92166239374588000422014-10-26T08:59:46.464-07:002014-10-26T08:59:46.464-07:00Did the Department reply to you Steve? Nobody in t...Did the Department reply to you Steve? Nobody in this process has covered themselves in glory, but I find the entitled attitude of the relatives, their secrecy and their total intolerance for questions or opposing points of view to be deeply troubling.<br /><br />Maureen O'Sullivan is a mediocrity. Both my girlfriend and I are banned from her Facebook page for questioning her stance on Moore Street. My g/f emailed her about the ban and got shockingly inconsistent replies.Sean Griffithsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3836420780693828723.post-16780060320006196422014-10-23T16:24:11.545-07:002014-10-23T16:24:11.545-07:00Maureen O'Sullivan brought this issue up in th...Maureen O'Sullivan brought this issue up in the Dail again https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2014-10-22a.23&s=moore#g29 so I emailed and ask what was the basis for her questions and she said I should ask relatives but I told her they won't release informationdublinstreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15670492570354241920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3836420780693828723.post-58141596346645907032014-09-27T10:43:15.203-07:002014-09-27T10:43:15.203-07:00E-mail the Department to ask for the report on the...E-mail the Department to ask for the report on the battleground and its conclusions on 18. The 20-25 thing was in the Sunday Indo last week and was carried in the Journal this week. Someone wrote a book quoting Oscar Traynor and another gentleman regarding 20-25. Their testimonies should be in the bureau of military history website.Sean Griffithsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3836420780693828723.post-60271015679449462672014-09-27T09:34:21.571-07:002014-09-27T09:34:21.571-07:00Ok you say they have documentary evidence re numbe...Ok you say they have documentary evidence re number 18 where is it so I can read it for myself? Where is the evidance about Number 16 vs number 25? I looked for again last night and I can't find it. The history of the deliberate dereliction of O'Connell Street goes beyoned one are two councillors power, designed to hook people who see the state and wrongly say we'll accept any replacement offered. This shopping centre development has already many articles and documentaries done on itdublinstreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15670492570354241920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3836420780693828723.post-41080286352050998202014-09-27T08:52:26.050-07:002014-09-27T08:52:26.050-07:00I don't think that MacDonncha nor Lyons will b...I don't think that MacDonncha nor Lyons will be interested in debating or discussing this with you. Sinn Fein have no interest in a historical battleground per se, they're just playing politics. They are assisted by the fact that no journalist is interested in drilling down into this issue at all. The arguments made by the relatives are parroted without question. There is the makings of a really good article for someone who cares to take the time here.Sean Griffithsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3836420780693828723.post-4478144297664584872014-09-27T08:47:15.271-07:002014-09-27T08:47:15.271-07:00Steve, the Department apparently has documentary e...Steve, the Department apparently has documentary evidence that No 18 was in ruins at the time of the Rising. The reason the relatives will not issue their report is because their "experts" will not let them, as their reputations will be savaged. In any event, there is now evidence that the final council of war did not take place in No 16, but rather in the entirely modern buildings between 20-25.Sean Griffithsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3836420780693828723.post-11079154668773445102014-09-26T06:49:19.449-07:002014-09-26T06:49:19.449-07:00I emailed mmacdonncha a number of times on this ne...I emailed mmacdonncha a number of times on this never got reply, I emailed new member john Lyons recently no reply, and as you can see I've added some information on the land deal helpfully published by Councillor Cuffe. It still hard to find this info, you go look for it after meetings, it not there yet, you forget and you come by it by chanced months later.dublinstreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15670492570354241920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3836420780693828723.post-67049292501748451642014-09-26T06:24:03.551-07:002014-09-26T06:24:03.551-07:00its still a sort of payment in kind for the 'r...its still a sort of payment in kind for the 'restored' national monument, even if they come out on top, being paid 9m, and then when you think the developers are in NAMA who's money is it that's being paid.dublinstreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15670492570354241920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3836420780693828723.post-83748221730270252982014-09-26T06:18:02.551-07:002014-09-26T06:18:02.551-07:00thanks for your comment, well ultimately its for t...thanks for your comment, well ultimately its for the Save Moore Street group to publish their counter report on Number 18, I like to see documents for myself and unfortunatly the Dublin City Council/Chartered land presentation is unreadable so cannot see the age they put on the building. Not sure where the original report covering that is but I did read it at one point. I emailed some councillors about it but they didn't get back to me (Micheal Macdonncha). I'll formulate some questions on it for Department and the Council (although the council 'customercare' are not good at responding intelligently either. dublinstreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15670492570354241920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3836420780693828723.post-16348605122407197812014-09-26T05:58:40.823-07:002014-09-26T05:58:40.823-07:00Steve, you yourself have doubts about the quality ...Steve, you yourself have doubts about the quality of the reporting from Local News (which is appalling) but when the Minister tries to set out the Department's case for why No 18 is post 1916 to try and stamp out the nonsense, you accuse them of protesting too much. They can't win. The two facebook pages run by relatives are the same group (I'm banned from both), though they always add the number of likes on both pages together to represent their online support (of course it is inconceivable that some people might like both pages :)). They have a nasty habit of posting really rank disinformation on the sites - for example, one of the latest posts suggest that the Council will pay Chartered Land as part of the land swap when in fact The Council stand to benefit financially from the swap). However you get banned if you point out any inaccuracies. But to sum up, why don't you approach the Department in relation to Moore Street, ask questions and then assess who's right? Sean Griffiths Sean Griffithsnoreply@blogger.com