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Sunday, 8 January 2017

Dail speaking and Legislation Time

Whats going on?

Micheál Martin seeks cut to small parties Fiachra Ó Cionnaith October 27, 2016 Irish Examiner

Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin has called for key speaking rights for smaller parties to be cut, despite the move being central to Dáil reforms sought by his party after the general election.
FF deputies complain about Ceann Comhairle in speaking row Philip Ryan Indpendent 20/11/2016

Eamon Ryan was complaining about speaking time in the Dail 2016-11-08

"There is a danger that on Thursday we will not have the same speaking rights that we have today, if the Government and Fianna Fáil plans, working together, are agreed."

Green Party: Fianna Fáil’s commitment to political reform has come to an end Eamon Ryan 26th October 2016
"Independent analysis shows that overall speaking times are allocated to parties on a proportional basis, with bigger parties having the advantage of speaking first. Now they want to go further by cutting the speaking time for the smaller parties. That would restrict debate in an attempt to return us to an old two-party system that has had its day."
What independent analysis?

Oliver Moran The Green Party Spokesperson on political reform told me it was 'analysis was carried out by the Office of Clerk of the Dáil and it was referred to during a previous Dáil reform committee meeting.'

but hasn't spoken about it since.

A motion publishsed 14-11-16 for changes of Dail standing orders reducing time by 10 minutes of speeches at second stage was agreed.
That, in accordance with the recommendation of the sub-Committee on Dáil Reform under Standing Order 107(1)(a), the Standing Orders of Dáil Éireann relative to Public Business be amended in Standing Order 148 as follows:With effect from 15th November, 2016 (and only in respect of Bills which commence their second reading on or after that date), in paragraph (2) of Standing Order 148, to delete all words from ‘shall not exceed thirty minutes’ down to and including ‘not exceed twenty minutes.’, and substitute the following:

‘shall not exceed 20 minutes: Provided that where the Business Committee is of the opinion that in respect of a particular Bill, the time for each speech in this first round should be extended by a certain amount, it shall include a proposal to that effect in its report under Standing Order 27C(3).

The speech of any other member in the course of the debate shall not exceed 20 minutes.’.

Standing Orders of the Dail Houses of the Oireachtas

Standing Orders: Motion Dáil Éireann - 29/Nov/2016

Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Regina Doherty): I move:
That, in accordance with the recommendation of the sub-Committee on Dáil Reform under Standing Order 107(1)(a), until further notice in the 32nd Dáil, Standing Order 29 of the Standing Orders of Dáil Éireann relative to Public Business be amended, with effect from 6th December, 2016:
(a) by the deletion of subparagraph (d) and the substitution of the following:
‘(d) The sequence in which Leaders shall be called upon to put questions shall be in accordance with the rota over nine weeks/27 sitting days, approved by the sub-Committee on Dáil Reform, determined on the basis of the number of members in each group, and with questions for each group distributed across each Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday that the Dáil sits: Provided that no group shall have more than one question each day. The rota as applied to particular dates shall be circulated periodically to members by the Journal Office.’;

(b) in paragraph (f), by the deletion of all words from ‘Provided that’ down to and including ‘that Standing Order’.”
Question put and agreed to.

Regina Doherty in the Irish Times Jan 2016
The two larger parties also share a concern that the smaller groupings in the Dáil are getting too much speaking time relative to their parliamentary strength, something that is now kept under constant review.

Final Report of the Sub-Committee on Dail Reform
24 May 2016

Government bill time is atleast 5.5 hours opposition times is 4 hours. Thats; 9.5 hours in total?

Chief Whip Regina Doherty says
“Particularly given that I only have five hours a week to pass legislation – as opposed to as much as I would have liked in the old Dail”

How much time on average would the gov and opp have/used in previous Dails?

The time available currently in Dail for Legislation is 11.25 hours per week.
Tom Kitt Committee System 30th Dail

This Glossary of Oireachtas Terms ( Constitutional Convention 2014) says oppostion used to have 3 hours.

So did gov used to have or use 8.5 hours a week? no?

Role of the Houses of the Oireachtas in the Scrutiny of Legislation Dr. Brian Hunt 17th December 2010.

Saturday, 24 December 2016

Reinstate48 and the €30,000 worth of Posters


Reinstate 48’s sole objective is to restore to the people of Ireland the democratic rights given to them under Article 48 of the 1922 Constitution of the Irish Free State to make, mould, amend and repeal their own laws.
Reinstate 48 seeks postering rights Aodhan O Faolain, Irish Times Feb 19, 2016.
As part of its campaign, the group spent €30,000 putting up six different posters at various locations and on a social media campaign.

Campaigners fight council to keep up posters Aodhan O’Faolain, The Times February 19 2016
A group which wants the Constitution amended to allow referendums to be triggered by signatures of 50,000 voters is seeking High Court orders preventing Dublin City Council from removing posters endorsing its campaign.
The group spent about €30,000 on putting up six types of posters at various locations

Does Reinstate 48 accept financial donations? Reinstate48 FAQ
We are currently running our first crowdfunding appeal. The purpose of the appeal is to raise €2,500 to cover the costs of designing and printing 300 large (A0 size) R48 Election posters. The objective of the posters is to try and raise awareness of the R48 initiative amongst voters during the 2016 General Election campaign. The posters will be erected in high profile public locations by volunteers. If you support the R48 initiative then please consider making a small donation to this crowdfunding appeal.

Reinstate 48 initiative on ICrowdfund 1st April 2016



All funds will be collected on March 12, 2016

"Figure 2 Reinsate48 posters outside major newspaper offices Feb 2016"

Did they really put up 30,000 worth of posters as they claimed? Did the papers republished their claim check it?

The Reinstate Article 48 "Direct Democracy" Initiative by Finbar10 on politics.ie Feb 2016.
R48 election posters on the streets of Dublin Reinstate 48. 20 Feb 2016